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Monday, October 4, 2010

Tired NON PC midnight Mussings About Love Spirituality and Religion

[23:13]  Chester Dickens: http://chesterdickensofsl.blogspot.com/2010/10/spiritual-gumbo-chapter-one.html
[23:13]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yay!
[23:13]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: looking
[23:14]  Chester Dickens: oh...I thought you were offline
[23:15]  Chester Dickens: thank you for looking...:-)
[23:15]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yeah i just followed u too ive been horrible busy im sorry i didnt first time u gave me da link
[23:16]  Chester Dickens: that's ok
[23:16]  Chester Dickens: no problems
[23:16]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: this looks really good
[23:16]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: reading
[23:16]  Chester Dickens: I think there is some spiritual questions asked
[23:24]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i think some things society teaches us is wrong
[23:25]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: for instance
[23:25]  Chester Dickens: listening
[23:25]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: that not being with her cause u had no money
[23:25]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: is frustrating to me cause i see people deny themselves happiness
[23:25]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: over something so mutable
[23:26]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: so unimportant in the overall scheme
[23:26]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: jobs an money come an go
[23:26]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: love doesnt as much
[23:26]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: not true love
[23:26]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: it makes me sad
[23:26]  Chester Dickens: you see the grandma and how they also picked my father for my mother, because he was a good provider..and that thought programmed into me
[23:27]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yes an that's a really bad way to think
[23:27]  Chester Dickens: Yeah...I sense that ..
[23:27]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: cause just cause someone is good provider means nothing
[23:28]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i mean  dysfunction an lack of love still occurs in those relationships
[23:28]  Chester Dickens: yeah..and many marriage stay in spite of no love lost if they leave..but stay because there is that material question, beside the spiritual aspect of the love
[23:29]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: agreed
[23:29]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u can love people u have little in common with an also have tons in common but the key is the love
[23:29]  Chester Dickens: why are there so many unhappy marriages in spite of being taken cared of materially..money can't buy love
[23:29]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: exactly
[23:30]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an staying together 4 children
[23:30]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: teaches them bad relationship skills
[23:30]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: they grow up thinking that's normal
[23:30]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an expected an the way to do it cause they know no other way
[23:31]  Chester Dickens: My father and mother agreed to stay together until we, the children they thought were old enough
[23:31]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yes an what did that teach u bad things about love
[23:31]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well relationships
[23:31]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: which u see now
[23:32]  Chester Dickens: I only saw my father and mother kiss once
[23:32]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: but how long did that take an how much pain did u have to experience b4 hand?
[23:32]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: aww that's just wrong
[23:32]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well more sad really
[23:33]  Chester Dickens: how we all suffer because of our conditioning
[23:33]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: see u coulda subconsciously developed touch phobias cause of that
[23:33]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: people just need to take responsibility an realize how they effect others
[23:33]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: especially children
[23:34]  Chester Dickens: you know even they do not know what they are doing, they themselves conditioned and it too became their unconscious conditioning
[23:35]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i know
[23:35]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i just find it frustrating people arent more aware of themselves sometimes
[23:36]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: its frustrating society as a whole is so self absorbed but not enough to look at their actions
[23:36]  Chester Dickens: there are many reason why people are not awake
[23:37]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well i cant deny that
[23:38]  Chester Dickens: perhaps it's like a bell curve..only a very few can be conscious..and a very few total psychopathic..and the majority..half awake
[23:38]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i think its choice
[23:39]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i think its easier to be a sheep
[23:39]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an just blindly follow
[23:39]  Chester Dickens: you can only do what you do what to do..it does take being very rebellious
[23:39]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: blame things on others an not take responsibility
[23:40]  Chester Dickens: I deep rebellion even within yourself...you see your mind..your programming...you rebell against it.. you don't accept and politely ask it to leave.
[23:41]  Chester Dickens: it's all unconscious reactions
[23:41]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i know but being aware is half da battle
[23:41]  Chester Dickens: yes..there is hope
[23:42]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: always
[23:42]  Chester Dickens: you will be amazed from some of my stories...I've asked the impossible...and got it
[23:43]  Chester Dickens: glad you are a fan..hehehehe
[23:44]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: cool :)
[23:44]  Chester Dickens: I love your input
[23:44]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ty :)
[23:44]  Chester Dickens: thank you so much for responding
[23:44]  Chester Dickens: thank you thank you
[23:44]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: anytime
[23:44]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: im sure u would do the same
[23:45]  Chester Dickens: I always do when it has substance
[23:45]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: what do u mean?
[23:46]  Chester Dickens: it's not like an add..it's thoughts and ideas to think about..
[23:46]  Chester Dickens: I would respond to your thoughts for sure...I like your thoughts
[23:46]  Chester Dickens: they have substance
[23:46]  Chester Dickens: some ideas have more weight
[23:47]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: what determines that?
[23:47]  Chester Dickens: it influences a different part of you
[23:47]  Chester Dickens: not all ideas are the same..some go into being more esoteric
[23:48]  Chester Dickens: attention is focussed within
[23:48]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well true
[23:49]  Chester Dickens: if you have a magnetic center...your being will be drawns to those ideas....that's why many are attracted to ideas of the spiritual....beyond our physical
[23:49]  Chester Dickens: why are people drawn towards relgions
[23:50]  Chester Dickens: they can help to a certain point..but there comes a time when you have to give even that up
[23:50]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: oh?
[23:50]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: why?
[23:51]  Chester Dickens: sure..it's part of your programming also. your world view
[23:51]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: aqhh i see
[23:51]  Chester Dickens: it's like thinking on atomatic
[23:51]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: that makes more sense
[23:51]  Chester Dickens: you know how when you first learn how to ride a bike?
[23:51]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u dont have to give it up u just redefine your beliefs as u grow
[23:52]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: your perspective changes
[23:52]  Chester Dickens: you are conscious of it..aware of your movements etc..your balance
[23:52]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yep
[23:52]  Chester Dickens: and then afterwhile...you can do without thinking
[23:52]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: nodds
[23:52]  Chester Dickens: same thing happens with thoughts..after awhile you can have them without being aware
[23:53]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: like negative thinking
[23:53]  Chester Dickens: they become a train of habits...
[23:53]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: evil
[23:53]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yep
[23:54]  Chester Dickens: evil perhaps is just being unconscious..to yourself and others as you could have been more aware.
[23:54]  Chester Dickens: so we do ugly things to ourselves and others
[23:54]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: sadly i agree
[23:55]  Chester Dickens: yeah.it is sad
[23:55]  Chester Dickens: when you become self aware..there is great pain
[23:55]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yep
[23:55]  Chester Dickens: you see how ugly you have been
[23:55]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: exactly
[23:56]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: hopefully u can 4 give yourself
[23:56]  Chester Dickens: you come to Know...not just have brain knowledge...but come to see yourself as you really are..a great remose happens
[23:57]  Chester Dickens: well..that's the thing..if you get too stuck in that remose you will become morbid
[23:57]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: morbid?
[23:57]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: how so?
[23:57]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: dont u mean depressed?
[23:57]  Chester Dickens: but the positive side is Now that you are aware..it would be hard for you to do the ugly again
[23:57]  Chester Dickens: well...like self pity
[23:57]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: thats true
[23:57]  Chester Dickens: one of our big demons
[23:58]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yeah but ive never thought of self pity as morbid
[23:58]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: morbid is enjoying f**king dead people
[23:58]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: usually
[23:58]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol
[23:59]  Chester Dickens: hahaha..well...you enjoy staying a living corspe in your mind
[23:59]  Chester Dickens: beating your chest all the time..full of guiity shame...etc
[00:00]  Chester Dickens: sure..Forgiveness is the other half of Love...you have to forgive yourself and others
[00:00]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: oh so it may seem morbid to others tho that may be a funny pick up line *hey ever f**ked a dead thing* lol jk dont ever use that chester :P
[00:00]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: thats true i agree
[00:01]  Chester Dickens: hahaha...aren't words funny
[00:01]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: that was my black comedy moment of da day
[00:01]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: :P
[00:01]  Chester Dickens: you a goof..that's all there is to it!!!  hehehehe
[00:02]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u know u kinda described alot of catholics above
[00:02]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol
[00:02]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yes im a goof sometimes when im not being very serious
[00:02]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol
[00:03]  Chester Dickens: of course..think about it...this area is highly Catholic..why I didn't know there was another relgion until I start follow the girl's skirt and they introduced me to their family's religion...yeah..men follow they women and convert..:-)
[00:04]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ohhh wow i didn't even think of that
[00:04]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ive never tried to make any of my guys wiccan
[00:04]  Chester Dickens: religion is really a feminine aspect of life
[00:04]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol
[00:05]  Chester Dickens: did it matter to them you were?  see my point
[00:05]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u think i always thought it was political which is kinda male
[00:05]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well true
[00:06]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: actually my rl ex is dating another wiccan now an his mom said what is wrong with u cant u find a nice christian girl lol
[00:06]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i find that really funny
[00:07]  Chester Dickens: little do people know , but the Catholic traditions and ways of believing stem right out of the pagan mystery schools.
[00:07]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: oh im well aware
[00:07]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: many religions did that it made conversion easier
[00:07]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: to the *locals*
[00:08]  Chester Dickens: sure.the new mother goddess became Queen of Heaven...Mary.
[00:08]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: nodds
[00:09]  Chester Dickens: they had to do that when they went into the french lands...no one would convert unless they had a substitute mother image.
[00:09]  Chester Dickens: only the names have been changed
[00:09]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yep
[00:10]  Chester Dickens: Even every story of Jesus was done before by previous virgin/born, dying/ressurectingn god/men
[00:10]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yep
[00:10]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: thats what i like about studying various religions
[00:11]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: many similarities
[00:11]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: across them all
[00:11]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: all roads lead to the same mountain
[00:12]  Chester Dickens: there is nothing original about Jesus..the basical understand of Christianity was a product of Paul and his synthesizing three major religious ideas..those of the jews , the gnostic and those of the mystery religions
[00:12]  Chester Dickens: well they are all focussing techniques
[00:12]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: right
[00:13]  Chester Dickens: Buddha became enlightened one day by simple observing his breath going in and out
[00:14]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yep
[00:15]  Chester Dickens: well..his technique were geared more for the intellectual part of a person..while faith based religions use more of the heart and emotional center of a person
[00:15]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: nodds
[00:16]  Chester Dickens: and half the world is brought up using the wrong technique for their type..so always half the world will remain half alseep.
[00:16]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: how does one determine their type?
[00:18]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: by trying various shoes on till one fits :P
[00:18]  Chester Dickens: well if you are in doubt..then most likely your are an intellectual type..for it's the mind that will always question..but if you have that abliity to accept beliefs without question...because feel the love behind those words.then you are basically and emotional type
[00:18]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an as they grow as people so does their shoe size
[00:20]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u can be one type an grow into another tho we r always evolving
[00:20]  Chester Dickens: well..you see how some try to prove the bible scientifically with theories ...those are intellectual types trying to prove the validity to comfort their doubts
[00:21]  Chester Dickens: not sure..perhaps they way you will be basically in life is from birth..
[00:21]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: makes sense
[00:21]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: no i disagree
[00:21]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: some people can start out very emotional
[00:21]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an trusting
[00:21]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an become more analytical an questioning over time
[00:22]  Chester Dickens: could be...you find out that Santa Claus is not real
[00:22]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: we still dont know that 4 sure:P
[00:22]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol
[00:23]  Chester Dickens: maybe there is a stage when you are a child that you develope trust..comes from the parents..and that is nurtured longer..and so you will crytalize into that type when you reach adolences
[00:23]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: then how do u explain
[00:23]  Chester Dickens: the christmas story is all pagan
[00:23]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: amazing grace?
[00:24]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i think beliefs an perspective can change at any time dep on u an your experiences
[00:24]  Chester Dickens: new knowledge will make you think
[00:24]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: exactly
[00:25]  Chester Dickens: so do you deny or try to defend what you were previously taught
[00:25]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: u mean in catholic school?
[00:25]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: or santa claus?
[00:26]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: :P
[00:26]  Chester Dickens: whatever faith you were taught or have
[00:26]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well lets see
[00:27]  Chester Dickens: suppose you came across knowledge that told you that your wiccan belief's was nothing more then a bunch of Bull Hockey?  what would you do?
[00:27]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i was born prodestant, tried mormanism , jahova witness, went to a catholic school an ultimately found out about wicca an have been one ever since. i found wicca on my own in a book store an taught myself
[00:28]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: actually
[00:28]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: funny u should say that
[00:28]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: a few years back
[00:28]  Chester Dickens: yeah...I went thru every religion and even scribed to the Flying Spaghetti monsters of the Athiest
[00:29]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i questioned weather i would stay wiccan or brance out from it when i started practicing shamanism
[00:29]  Chester Dickens: it's funny...both are absolutely correct
[00:29]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i decided
[00:29]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: to stay wiccan but incorporate other knowledge into my beleifs
[00:30]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: so i guess to the outside im wiccan
[00:30]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: but inside
[00:30]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: all roads lead to the same mountain
[00:31]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: when i say outside i mean what others see an assume
[00:31]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: but  its more like advanced wicca now cause its always growing an evolving
[00:31]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: like me
[00:32]  Chester Dickens: is there like a top position...like you'll become a goddess one day?
[00:32]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: hahaha
[00:33]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i'll let u know if i get there
[00:33]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol
[00:33]  Chester Dickens: okie dokie..sounds good
[00:34]  Chester Dickens: maybe I'll become a God or something..hehehhehehe
[00:34]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: what do u know about wicca?
[00:34]  Chester Dickens: I know a nice Sufi joke about that!
[00:34]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol im sure
[00:36]  Chester Dickens: Man name Mullah Nasrudin when to the next village claiming to be God..the villagers pulled him on the said and said," you know we just executed a guy last year for claiming to be god."
[00:36]  Chester Dickens: Mullah thought for a minute and said;
[00:36]  Chester Dickens: Serves him Right!!!  I didn't send him.
[00:36]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol that is bad
[00:37]  Chester Dickens: Hey can't mess with god ya know
[00:37]  Chester Dickens: hehehe
[00:37]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: lol thats one perspective :P
[00:38]  Chester Dickens: Crazy people in the east are left alone....you just never know if they are enlightened ..or just crazy

wytchie gets given a notecard that says .....
The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
the four agreements - don miguel ruiz
Don Miguel Ruiz's - The Four Agreements
Don Miguel Ruiz's book, The Four Agreements was published in 1997. For many, The Four Agreements is a life-changing book, whose ideas come from the ancient Toltec wisdom of the native people of Southern Mexico. The Toltec were 'people of knowledge' - scientists and artists who created a society to explore and conserve the traditional spiritual knowledge and practices of their ancestors. The Toltec viewed science and spirit as part of the same entity, believing that all energy - material or ethereal - is derived from and governed by the universe. Don Miguel Ruiz, born and raised in rural Mexico, was brought up to follow his family's Toltec ways by his mother, a Toltec faith healer, and grandfather, a Toltec 'nagual', a shaman. Despite this, Don Miguel decided to pursue a conventional education, which led him to qualify and practice for several years as a surgeon. Following a car crash, Don Miguel Ruiz reverted to his Toltec roots during the late 1970's, first studying and learning in depth the Toltec ways, and then healing, teaching, lecturing and writing during the 1980's and 90's, when he wrote The Four Agreements (published in 1997), The Mastery of Love (1999), The Four Agreements Companion Book (2000), and Prayers (2001). Don Miguel Ruiz survived a serious heart attack 2002, since when his teachings have been largely channelled through seminars and classes run by his followers, notably his sons Don Jose Luis and Don Miguel Ruiz Junior. Like many gurus and philosophical pioneers, Ruiz has to an extent packaged, promoted and commercialised his work, nevertheless the simplicity and elegance of his thinking remains a source of great enlightenment and aspiration. The simple ideas of The Four Agreements provide an inspirational code for life; a personal development model, and a template for personal development, behaviour, communications and relationships. Here is how Don Miguel Ruiz summarises 'The Four Agreements':

 


the four agreements - don miguel ruiz's code for life
agreement 1
Be impeccable with your word - Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

agreement 2
Don’t take anything personally - Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.

agreement 3
Don’t make assumptions - Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.

agreement 4
Always do your best - Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse and regret.


 
the four agreements - don miguel ruiz
A life-changing book. Don Miguel Ruiz's simple guidance for life. This book - the original in the series - is widely available. Everyone should read it.
  


 


See also:

Love and Spirituality in Management and Business - anyone can help bring compassion and humanity to work.

Cherie Carter-Scott's Rules Of Life, and Steven Covey's Seven Habits Of Highly Effective People.

'The Four Agreements' summary is the intellectual property of Don Miguel Ruiz. No attempt is made here to exploit it - merely to review and inform.

More about The Four Agreements ideology, The Four Agreements book, Don Miguel Ruiz and Toltec philosophy at Don Miguel Ruiz's website.

[00:39]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: likes those agreements
[00:39]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: they make sense
[00:39]  Chester Dickens: that's from a Shaman
[00:39]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: it doesnt suprise me
[00:40]  Chester Dickens: well you mentioned shamism...so I thought I would share
[00:40]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ty
[00:41]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well the great thing about shamanism is its ability to incorporate an merge with any religion
[00:41]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: but i couldnt deny its existance cause i have seen spirits my whole life
[00:41]  Chester Dickens: I think it's perhaps the very first religion...but it's for individuals..not subscribing to a group motif of belief's
[00:42]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: so can wicca be
[00:42]  Chester Dickens: always go on your vision quest alone
[00:42]  Chester Dickens: find your own personal diety
[00:42]  Chester Dickens: find the god within you
[00:42]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i was always a solitary
[00:42]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: yep
[00:44]  Chester Dickens: I think when group belief's become more prominate..then the focus was on society and it's ways of behavior..became more political
[00:44]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i hate politics
[00:44]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: but i understand what u r saying
[00:44]  Chester Dickens: so they focus went outward instead of inward
[00:45]  Chester Dickens: there focus was with other people
[00:46]  Chester Dickens: well..you have pieces of all things everywhere...you work on yourself..you word with others..and you work simply for the Work sake...pass it down
[00:46]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: what u mean pass it down?
[00:47]  Chester Dickens: well..there are those ideas again..some are otherworldly...and each culture changes them slightly to fit into that...so even though the outer appearance may seem different..the core is the same
[00:48]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: right
[00:49]  Chester Dickens: everyone uses that culture to change that core into a newer form...same as what you are say..take this from that and that from this can evolve that core into something you find that fits you..if it's good enough..then there are always followers and that starts a new tradition...that's how it happens
[00:50]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: right
[00:50]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: thats why all religions have various branches
[00:50]  Chester Dickens: Catholics remolded paganism
[00:51]  Chester Dickens: yeah...you see..it's like people do not know...so they find something someone else has experienced and try to follow it
[00:52]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: right while they seek their own truth some way to get there
[00:52]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: like a roadmap
[00:52]  Chester Dickens: it's like you see the path of birds in the sky..you might try to follow it...but unless you find your own wings will you be able to soar into the heavens
[00:52]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: right
[00:53]  Chester Dickens: be an individual Wychwhisper..that's the path
[00:53]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: exactly
[00:53]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i always try to
[00:54]  Chester Dickens: well..when you awake..you will find out that you always were...and it's not a matter of becoming anything....simply relax into Being.
[00:55]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: chester im just always me
[00:55]  Chester Dickens: well.that's where you come to accept yourself as you are..forgive yourself..love yourself..good bad and the ugly
[00:55]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: take it or leave it
[00:57]  Chester Dickens: we are only human....we came into the world without a program...not the animals..they  know already how to BE.
[00:57]  Chester Dickens: that's out glory and also our curse....always looking for an idenity
[00:58]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: ive always had one i call it *me*
[00:59]  Chester Dickens: just individuals trying to fit into society
[00:59]  Chester Dickens: yep...that Me is something to love
[01:01]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: im gonna have to let u go sweety
[01:01]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: i got more packaging to do
[01:01]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an i wanna go to sleep soon
[01:01]  Chester Dickens: hahaha..I was just thinking the same thing..it was a nice conversation..but it's late
[01:02]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: nodds :) k well sweet dreams :)
[01:02]  Chester Dickens: this could be a blog..hehehehe
[01:02]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: an good job on the blog :)
[01:02]  Chester Dickens: thank you...:-)
[01:02]  Chester Dickens: Enough for today...:-)
[01:03]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: if u wanna use it as a blog post feel free i will too
[01:03]  Chester Dickens: ok..thank you
[01:03]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: uvw :)
[01:03]  Chester Dickens: nice coversation..had substance
[01:03]  Chester Dickens: thank you kindly
[01:03]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: back at ya :)
[01:04]  Chester Dickens: good night my friend
[01:04]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: sweet dreams :)
[01:04]  Chester Dickens: how about a nice song..hehehe
[01:05]  Chester Dickens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cPXnBV42qQ
[01:05]  Wytchwhisper Sadofsky: well im singing next saturday u can find info on my event calendar :P shamless plug lol
[01:08]  Chester Dickens: ...................................zzz